153 – IARLG – POUNDERING OVER QURAN 7_172 to 174; Date 27th January 2017; 28th or 29th Rabi-Al-Thani 1438

Date: 27th January 2017; 28th or 29th Rabi-Al-Thani 1438;

ISLAMIC AL-JUMUAA REMINDER AND LEGACY GROUP, (http://aljumaareminder.com/), pondering on (Qur’an 7:172-174):

(This is) a Book (the Quran) which We have sent down to you, full of blessings that they may ponder over its Ayats (Verses), and that men of understanding may remember. (Qur’an 38:29)

And this is a blessed Book (the Quran) which We have sent down, so follow it and fear Allah that you may receive mercy. (Qur’an 6:155)

Let us pounder on the Ayats below and fear Allah so that we can receive Allah’s Mercy:


And (remember) when your Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their loins, their seed (or from Adam’s loin his offspring) and made them testify as to themselves (saying): “Am I not your Lord?” They said: “Yes! We testify,” lest you should say on the Day of Resurrection: “Verily, we have been unaware of this.”. (Qur’an 7:172)

Or lest you should say: “It was only our fathers aforetime who took others as partners in worship along with Allah, and we were (merely their) descendants after them; will You then destroy us because of the deeds of men who practiced Al-Batil (i.e. polytheism and committing crimes and sins, invoking and worshipping others besides Allah)?” (Qur’an 7:173)

Thus do We explain the Ayat in detail, so that they may turn (unto the truth). (Qur’an 7:174)

Ibn `Abbās, a companion of the Prophet who is renowned for his scholarship, reports: “Your Lord went over Adam’s back with His hand, and out came every human being He would be creating until the Day of Resurrection. He took their pledges and made them bear witness about themselves, saying to them: “Am I not your Lord? They replied ‘Yes, indeed.’” (Verse 172)


Our Past in (Qur’an 7:172-173)

Do you remember the day you were born? It was most likely your parents who told you what day you were born because you can’t remember it.

Do you remember what took place after you were born? It was most likely your parents who told you what took place after you were born.

Do you remember how helpless you were when you were born? You might not remember this too but you might know this by watching how helpless babies are.

If we could not remember things from the moment we were in our mother’s wombs to the time we were born; do you think we will remember what took place way before all that? Who can tell us what occurred before our souls were breathed into our mother’s womb?

We trust our parents and that is why if they tell us to remember that we were born in a certain date we would believe them because we have no other choice.

How about we trust Allah when He tells us to remember in (Qur’an 7:172-173)? If we can trust our parents’ information because we see them as reliable sources of information, then how about Allah? Our parents’ are just human being after all. They might have remembered incorrectly or they might lie (hey, we are talking about human beings here).

…And who s truer in statement than Allah? (Qur’an 4:87)

…Allah’s Promise is the Truth, and whose words can be truer than those of Allah? (Qur’an 4:122)

…And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? … (Qur’an 9:111)


Our location in (Qur’an 7:172-173)

Another thing to keep mind is the fact that we were all there in the place mentioned in (Qur’an 7:172-173). Were we in Paradise, Hell or another place which we have no knowledge of? Just because the place was not mentioned does not mean the place does not exist. Were we in a place of nothingness or space?

Many people normally assume that the conversation that took place in (Qur’an 7:172-173) was in Paradise because Adam was in Paradise which is good.

But since Allah didn’t mention the place specifically, how about we pounder more? What if the conversation in (Qur’an 7:172-173) took place in Hell? We do know that even the most wicked souls would never dare deny Allah when they witness a certain level of His Power as can be seen in (Qur’an 6:27-28) below:

If you could but see when they will be held over the (Hell) Fire! They will say: “Would that we were but sent back (to the world)! Then we would not deny the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, revelations, etc.) of our Lord, and we would be of the believers!” Nay, it has become manifest to them what they had been concealing before. But if they were returned (to the world), they would certainly revert to that which they were forbidden. And indeed they are liars. (Qur’an 6:27-28)

We also know that Allah has no problem making even the righteous souls witness Hell as can be seen in (Qur’an 19:71)

There is not one of you but will pass over it (Hell); this is with your Lord; a Decree which must be accomplished. (Qur’an 19:71)

If the conversation took place in another place other than Paradise and Hell it would be futile to try to pounder on it because our minds are limited to only what we know. Think about it, we know a lot about Paradise and Hell via the Quran and Sunnah but we still can’t imagine it to perfection. Perhaps we were in one of the seven heavens; but Allah knows Best. We personally don’t think what took place in (Qur’an 7:172-173) took place on earth because our father Adam was supposed to be the first here, not us.


Those around us in (Qur’an 7:172-173)

Our parents, children and everyone else who lived before us and who will be born in the future are all from the children of Adam. We (the current generation) are also amongst the children of Adam. What does this tell us?

It’s quite simple really. Do you know in (Qur’an 7:172-173) we were placed/standing with the people of Nuh, the people of Hud, the people Lut, Fir’aun, our grandparents, our parents, our children, our grandchildren, our future children and the list go on and on. We were all spoken to as equals; at that point we probably didn’t know whether we would come to earth early or much later. We didn’t know who would become our parents and who amongst those would be given to us as our child/children.

Yes, as we were there and you might have been placed/standing beside Musa or even Fir’aun. You might have been even been placed/standing beside your one month child whom you now see as helpless. You might have been placed even beside your grandfather. All of us were placed/standing as equals waiting to be brought to this earth to be tested. Remember at that time we had free will and we were probably wondering who would be our kinsmen and where we would be placed. The fact Allah tells us not to blame our parents if we follow them in shirk seems to indicate that Allah explained what would be our procedure of coming to the earth. We would come generations after generations.

The Prophets had their own VIP meeting and covenant with Allah as can be seen in (Qur’an 3:81-82) and (Qur’an 33:7-8). For us who are not prophets; some were with Nuh in the ark as the flood occurred. Others were with Musa as he parted the sea and they crossed with him. Others were with Prophet Muhammad (SAW) in the battle of Badr.

Others used their chances badly; for example the one who was placed as Nuh’s son yet he disbelieved and was drowned. Another one who failed was Fir’aun who mislead others.

It is no wonder that in the Day of Judgement when we are brought together again you will realize that so and so as your father, mother, uncle, aunt, husband, wife, son, daughter, friend etc were just a test and these ties will only benefit those who believe as can be seen in (Qur’an 13:23), (Qur’an 52:21) etc. Those who disbelieve will not be benefited by those who believe as can be seen in (Qur’an 66:10). On that Day one will remember what occurred in (Qur’an 7:172-173) and (Qur’an 33:72-73) as can be seen in (Qur’an 89:23).

That is why people will run away from each other on that Day. Imagine this! A father and a son who are all disbelievers will realize that both were there at (Qur’an 7:172-173) but they still ended up as disbelievers. It is truly Allah who knows whether one is righteous or not as can be seen in (Qur’an 17:25) and that is why in His Divine Wisdom He ensures that in at least every area a wicked person is put in place as can be seen in (Qur’an 6:123) to test others.

And thus We have set up in every town great ones of its wicked people to plot therein. But they plot not except against their ownselves, and they perceive (it) not. (Qur’an 6:123)

….And We have made some of you as a trial for others:…(Qur’an 25:20)

So even if a group of believers decide to start their own village/town/civilization, Allah will ensure wicked ones are born amongst them. If this is a hard concept to grasp then think of Nuh and the believers after they landed and departed from the ark till now. They were all believers and we are from their descendants. Fir’aun, Abu-Jahl were all descendants and disbelievers which goes to show that overtime Allah really places wicked people to plot therein and He (Allah) is the All-Wise,  All-Knowing.

Next time you read the Quran and read about any of the children of Adam, realize that you were together with him/her in (Qur’an 7:172:173). Next time you see a person you have never meet before; realize that you were together before you came to this earth as can be seen in (Qur’an 7:172-173).


We aren’t responsible for where we will placed in this world but we will be responsible for what we do

Some children are born blind but have all parents. Some children are born out of wedlock (the child has no sin). Some children are born and they become orphans after a few months. There are so many scenarios in which we come into this earth that we can’t list them all. What we can say is that Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope as can be seen in (Qur’an 2:286) and that Allah is the All-Wise, All-Knowing. He (Allah) knows exactly what He is doing. See how (Qur’an 15:19-25) explains these scenarios of us being brought down bit by bit till we are finished.

And the earth We spread out, and placed therein firm mountains, and caused to grow therein all kinds of things in due proportion. And We have provided therein means of living, for you and for those whom you provide not. And there is not a thing, but with Us are the stores thereof. And We send it not down except in a known measure. (Qur’an 15:19-21)

And We send the winds fertilizing (to fill heavily the clouds with water), then caused the water (rain) to descend from the sky, and We gave it to you to drink, and it is not you who are the owners of its stores. (Qur’an 15:22)

And certainly We! We it is Who give life, and cause death, and We are the Inheritors. And indeed, We know the first generations of you who had passed away, and indeed, We know the present generations of you (mankind), and also those who will come afterwards. And verily, your Lord will gather them together. Truly, He is All-Wise, All-Knowing. (Qur’an 15:23-25)

Some people usually ask what about previous generations who seem that they were not guided. We reply with the following Ayats:

[Fir’aun (Pharaoh)] said: “What about the generations of old?” [Musa (Moses)] said: “The knowledge thereof is with my Lord, in a Record. My Lord is neither unaware nor He forgets,” (Qur’an 20:51-52)

That was a nation who has passed away. They shall receive the reward of what they earned and you of what you earn. And you will not be asked of what they used to do. (Qur’an 2:134,141)

It is true that not everyone will have a warner or had a warner as can be seen in (Qur’an 36:6) but we can assure you with the fact that Allah ensured that every people have a guide: ….and to every people there is a guide. (Qur’an 13:7)

Extract from: https://islamqa.info/en/1244

A person who has never heard of Islam or the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), and who has never heard the message in its correct and true form, will not be punished by Allah if he dies in a state of kufr (disbelief). If it were asked what his fate will be, the answer will be that Allah will test him on the Day of Resurrection: if he obeys, he will enter Paradise and if he disobeys he will enter Hell. The evidence (daleel) for this is the hadeeth of al-Aswad ibn Saree’, who reported that the Prophet of Allah  (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “There are four (who will protest) to Allah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man who died during the fatrah (the interval between the time of ‘Eesaa (Jesus, upon whom be peace) and the time of Muhammad SAWS (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything.’ The insane man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me.’ The very old man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything.’ The man who died during the fatrah will say, ‘O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me.’ He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.”

According to another report, he said: “Whoever enters it, it will be cool and safe for him, and whoever does not enter it will be dragged to it.” (The hadeeth was reported by Imaam Ahmad and Ibn Hibbaan, and deemed saheeh by al-Albaani, Saheeh al-Jaami’, 881). Everyone who hears the message of Islam in a sound and correct form (and rejects it), will have evidence against him. Whoever dies without having heard the message, or having heard it in a distorted form, then his case is in the hands of Allah. Allah knows best about His creation, and He will never treat anyone unfairly. And Allah is All-Seer of His slaves.

IARLG’s comments: Our view is that Allah only assured us that He will send us Guidance from Him as can be seen in (Qur’an 2:38) & (Qur’an 20:123). And this promise has been fulfilled by Allah as can be seen in (Qur’an 13:7).

The fact He sent to the Children of Adam, Messengers and Scriptures is just as a favor to us. In (Qur’an 7:172-173) even when we were sent down as seen in Qur’an 2:38) & (Qur’an 20:123); we were never really told that there will be Messengers that we would have to follow. We also know Messengers had another private covenant with Allah as can be seen in (Qur’an 3:81-82) and (Qur’an 33:7-8). So what does this mean? We will see shortly.

What is the Qur’an? It is a reminder {see (Qur’an 81:27)} and it is guidance {see (Qur’an 45:11)} as well as a mercy {see (Qur’an 45:20)}. Do you know why the Qur’an is called a reminder? We believe it is called a reminder because it is to remind us of our covenant we took with Allah before coming to this earth.

Some people have warners who guide them but others only have guides to follow. In (Qur’an 2:38) and (Qur’an 20:123) we see that if we follow the guidance we will be fine. We believe that these people who follow the guidance even if no warner of scripture has reached them will never find the straight path but will be pardoned in the Hereafter.

If even Prophet Muhammad before being a Messenger never knew what faith is as can be seen (Qur’an 42:52); do you personally think you will find it on your own? Do you think you will know how Allah wants us to worship Him and how to live our lives?

In Saheeh Muslim it is narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Allah has one hundred parts of mercy, of which He sent down one between the jinn, mankind, the animals and the insects, by means of which they are compassionate and merciful to one another, and by means of which wild animals are kind to their offspring. And Allah has kept back ninety-nine parts of mercy with which to be merciful to His slaves of the Day of Resurrection.” (Muslim, al-Tawbah, 6908)

Allah has reserved 99%of His Mercy for the Day of Resurrection and that is why those four types of people will have a chance of being tested to enter Paradise. Despite this many from amongst the jinns and mankind will enter Hell as can be seen in (Qur’an 7:179). So let us continue to work hard.

153 - IARLG - POUNDERING OVER QURAN 7_172 to 174; Date 27th January 2017; 28th or 29th Rabi-Al-Thani 1438 (58 downloads)


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